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Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« on: December 09, 2011, 01:31:39 AM »
Well, maybe, I started a little off - at modding forum right away, so..
Here goes a hearty bow to you, people! Is is always nice to see a friendly bunch like yours. Hoping to stay here for pretty awhile.

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Detailed dosier, huh? If it could somewhat more describe my loony personality - I have only one favourite youtube chan. It is neither offensive nor adult, but very ..um.. unusual. I wonder what would it do to mentally unstable people. Well, I believe, their kind won't understand whole Eufloria's beauty and genius, so couldn't be found here...
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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 02:02:19 AM »
What.

Anyways, hi again!

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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2011, 02:18:35 AM »
What.

...agreed xD

Just thought that it's kinda a good tone to introduce my silly self at more common forum part than modding one is. I'm randomly getting overwhelmed by a "do everything-right-to-the-last-bit" stuff. This topic is the case.
You never get involved in a pig fight. If you do, three things happen: you get dirty, you get tired, and only the pig has fun.

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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2011, 03:02:13 AM »
Cool, now I know you a little more, despite the description doesn't quite match "a bot in a human disguise" I guess it's just one of your plans to take over the world :D

Maybe I'll introduce myself?:

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Anyways, hello :)

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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2011, 03:52:11 AM »
despite the description doesn't quite match "a bot in a human disguise"
Well... What if I tell you that it was disguises' description? ;) Innermost bottish identity details must remain secret - especially here, around modders' nest. Ain't wanna be hacked or somehow exploited =-P

I live in Norway, it's currently - 5 degrees Celsius here... It's cold, but not too cold.
Aha. That's what I left behind the scenes.
Same, -5. And it's not by any means normal to have such a warm winter here. -20 .. -30 is what it should be to feel as usual. Creates nice hop from summer's +20 .. +30 btw. Adds to endurance nicely.
Two or three years ago, there was a week of -38. When it changed to -26, people were like: "Look! -26 degrees of HEAT!"
Such is south Siberia. Town I live in is kinda regional capital. Lol, 165k population.
So you got an idea about which country it is. I know that there are many people who heavily distaste our kind because of nationality alone (did not mean you of cource). I have to say to them that, before making a stereotypical conclusion about individuals, they should always remember not to put our officials at same basket as the population. And if someone got disappointed by tourists - well... 90's were years of criminal rule. Bad habits seldom go off fast and easy. I feel sorry for those who were harassed by them.
You never get involved in a pig fight. If you do, three things happen: you get dirty, you get tired, and only the pig has fun.

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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2011, 08:33:53 PM »
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...not to put our officials at same basket as the population...
that rule should be applied to every country.
i must say Cyriak was a bit freaky, but since i like animals it wouldn't give me funny dreams. actually i have a cat in cage right beside me that i am trying to get him unafraid of humans.

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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2011, 01:47:43 AM »
Mh… you sure you can teach the cat not to be afraid of humans if you keep it in a cage? :o

I’ve had a lot of cats living at my places … and IMHO it’s best to let it run free (at first only in the apartment/house), have a fixed feeding place and a fixed cat toilet (with “fixed” I mean not to change these places) and let it come to you as it pleases. And it will come to you at last.

It can take up to ~3 months until one can let a cat outside … it needs to to accommodate the noise outside before and learn to know the place from inside.


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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2011, 01:53:28 AM »
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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2011, 04:52:30 AM »
that rule should be applied to every country.
May very well be correct.
Yeah, and when one assumes that most people around are thinking stereotypes means pretty much that one thinks stereotypes himself... So the last paragraph of my third message was kinda dumb thing to say :)

i must say Cyriak was a bit freaky, but since i like animals it wouldn't give me funny dreams.
Same. Had a dog then a cat before (Both passed away of old age). And now I got a wife...

actually i have a cat in cage right beside me that i am trying to get him unafraid of humans.
Well, mine cat has likely similar problem. Shall tell you a story - maybe it can be of some help.

Being a univercity student, I took her from a street (noticed suffered meowing from crumpled box nearby - and there she sit). She was afraid of me at contact much like of anyone else, but hunger and smell from my bag (food shopping, sausages - yeah, student has some cash backup :[) made her decision. Much healing ensued. Besides vaccination and parasite cleaning, there were a pair of cracked bones (Vets said that injury much looked like an effect of a kick).
Had to show a lot of patience just to make her to finally sit on my hands calm. Feeding from those hands helped much.
Then it came so that she was afaid of any other human. Solution was the same: my friends fed the cat (small bits of course), anyone visiting me was told not to speak loud, not to make sudden, fast movements, and not to lean at her direction. After some months she got used to them too. BTW, she was much easier with women - dunno if it was about voice tones or something else (maybe men were looking to her sight more alike the human creature that injured her).
When I saw that the cat is finally comfortable being home, I bought her a cat carriage and from day to day put the toys she slept with in it. Cat moved to sleep in carriage these days. So the first cat's long street walk was in carriage and she was asleep. Some more patience, and we did our first extraction from carriage outside home. The place chosen was outside of town, where aren't much of people could be met. That way, stage by stage, cat came to a normal, full life. So she lived by my side until her face hair went gray and age took what it always claims for.

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Any relevance to Freddy Hardest ('87-'89) by Dinamic Software? Userpic looks somewhat similar ::)

<edit: typos. sucks to be a grammar nazi at native language and to know you fail to compose sentences right in English>
« Last Edit: December 11, 2011, 05:34:46 AM by collapsoul »
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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2011, 06:11:41 PM »
<edit: typos. sucks to be a grammar nazi at native language and to know you fail to compose sentences right in English>

Look at it this way - I am a grammar nazi too. However, I cannot speak your native language in any way as well as you speak/type mine.

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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2011, 10:17:11 PM »
Quote from: collapsoul
Any relevance to Freddy Hardest ('87-'89) by Dinamic Software? Userpic looks somewhat similar ::)
you are the first one to search my name! ironically i never played freddy hardest, but my avatar is from target renegade2. one of my old time favourites that i still play on the +3 every now and then.

as for the cat in a cage, i don't sit here and poke him with a stick! the cage is for his safety. i had him out in our bedroom yesterday and he would just run and hide. he doesn't feel threatened in the cage and he is asleep right now beside me. he reluctantly lets me touch him in the cage, but will play with the ball or string readily. our aim is to let him run free with the others.

i have 3 cats that run free inside and out. 1 of them was completely feral when i trapped her initially and over the next 6 months she tamed us. the problem with any cat is if they are not handled by humans in the first 8 weeks, every day after that becomes increasingly difficult to befriend them. this fellow was well over 8 months when i first trapped him to get him desexed.
my wife helps an animal rescue for a few hours Monday-Friday and i help every now and then with trap and release. the cruelty in ireland is unbelievable and we have just lost a cat yesterday. she has not returned, so she's probably been poisoned or clubbed. i live in a town so it is unlikely she was shot, but then again a neighbour shot a dog on a public path from the end of his garden.

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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2011, 05:08:56 PM »
Look at it this way - I am a grammar nazi too. However, I cannot speak your native language in any way as well as you speak/type mine.
Right. Sure. But other edge of this blade is that English is obligatory here in Russia in order to have a chance to get sysadmin or coder job of average and higher quality/payment. How'd one read most part of the whatever documentations or something else job-related while not knowing the language that is most commonly used to write this kind of stuff? I think, though I may be wrong, that this can be attributed to one of the consequencies for us for finally sucking at the cold war :P
Sure you can't tell me the same about your relations with Russian language ;)
That should explain all my grumbling on myself, I suppose :)

you are the first one to search my name! ironically i never played freddy hardest, but my avatar is from target renegade2. one of my old time favourites that i still play on the +3 every now and then.
Got it. Never had this second Renegade, but used to wreck through first one a lot with friends. As for Freddy series, they are one of the brightest gaming memories of my childhood. They were among the first Spectrum games I've seen upon jumping to Spectrum from Apogey and Vector. Difference was noticeable. Comparable maybe to,  like, how Doom II looks against Crysis :)

he reluctantly lets me touch him in the cage, but will play with the ball or string readily. our aim is to let him run free with the others.
Not a single cat in the world can possibly stand against its own innate curiosity forever. Sooner or later this thirst for new sensations will overcome any fear.

and over the next 6 months she tamed us.
Yeah, right, that's how it works ;D

the cruelty in ireland is unbelievable and we have just lost a cat yesterday. she has not returned, so she's probably been poisoned or clubbed. i live in a town so it is unlikely she was shot, but then again a neighbour shot a dog on a public path from the end of his garden.
Sorry to know that. It's much like what's happening here, except for firearms. Here one can get a license and permission for it not so hard, but a very few would use it even for self-defence. Ridiculous laws define way too low allowed self-defence limits. Self-defense with firearms virtually has no chance of winning the case in court, despite any evidences of life threat. Most cases both aggressor and the victim will be sentenced about the same.
One can often see much disgusting and shocking sights around here deep in province. For example, waif kid (whose parents are: one is a convict and another is a drunkard), who just grabbed poor cat's or small dog's tail and is smashing poor animal agains the wall. Who to blame here? And imagine what are grown-ups of this kind are capable of...
Though it's somewhat cynical to say this, I'll do: the only thing that soothes this vile situation is the fact that they became less numerous compared to normal people than they were at 90's years. Cynical because they simply do not survive their own wretchedfullness.
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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2011, 09:00:05 PM »
on another note, what language do you use and how long are you programming?
i think it's about the only hope i have of getting work over here now and i'm starting at C++. i have a long way to go.

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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 07:31:34 PM »
on another note, what language do you use and how long are you programming?

Before 1998 - school years, humble play with different Basic/Pascal compilers that doesn't worth much mention.

1998-2001 - First years as the univercity student. Job tool is FoxBASE. Primarily it was support and upgrage of projects written by another person/predecessor and step-by-step porting of those projects to more recent FoxPro (as client computers were unable to deal with yet more recent Visual FoxPro).

2001-2003 - a step aside, job in the design department of a local newspaper. Tools: Corel Draw / Photoshop. Production: reclam banner/advertisement plates which were printed at commercial pages of newspaper.

2003: year of final univercity graduation. Was lucky enough to pick a job as a software tester at a local accounting system developing company. Lucky because these were years of maximum, unprecedented numbers of graduations for computer-related specialists of all sorts and, as a result, most "warm" places (which offer to coder / sysadmin wage that is greater than that of a nearest janitor) were already occupied.

2003 - current time: Slow but inevitable career growth at same company. Base tool - Clipper (Harbour), as it is used to build all the main engine's core (well they say it all started with older CA-Clipper at early 90's). This engine is a base for 14 company's database products (accounting, HR, storage, library, medicine, government purchase etc). I'm taking part  in both system and end-user coding currently. Sometimes it's Assembler (deep core maintenence), sometimes it's PHP/SQL (to provide a database <-> site link if some prodict needs it), but most part is Clipper.

Anyway, the more I work there, the more I think about learning more and moving to freelance for capital-based companies (or even the foreign ones). It'd be quite possible to get a monthly fee 2-3 times greater than i'm paid currently.

i think it's about the only hope i have of getting work over here now and i'm starting at C++. i have a long way to go.
Did never use this monster at actual jobs. On one hand, the more functional programming languages you know, the easier it is to learn any other of same type.  On the other hand, C++ comes out to be a somewhat complicated entity. For example, once i was shown 5 or 6 completely different ways of writing successful "Hello World" with it. All of them were short and complicated to language-unexperienced eye.  Needless to say that I dropped my jaw so hard that it hit my toes painfully.
Asked a friend about it just right now. He uses C++ daily. So he states that learning curve is steep only at the beginning, most part of trouble is to understand clearly all the C++'s differencies from the majority of other functional languages, starting with overly flexible syntax. It stops exploding your brain once you've learned the base.

I'll surely give it a try someday too.
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Re: Somewhat late 'Hello' to local Community
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2012, 06:52:18 AM »
as for the cat in a cage, i don't sit here and poke him with a stick! the cage is for his safety. i had him out in our bedroom yesterday and he would just run and hide. he doesn't feel threatened in the cage and he is asleep right now beside me. he reluctantly lets me touch him in the cage, but will play with the ball or string readily. our aim is to let him run free with the others...
just an update with SPIFF. he is now out and about with the other cats and no problems so far. this is his first week out. i inherited another cat (who is crackers) and there is a stray that is coming around in the last 2 weeks. that would be 6 now! 8 including the 2 neighbours cats that visit on occasion as well.